{"id":12198,"date":"2010-01-27T18:52:43","date_gmt":"2010-01-27T17:52:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bohemiavillage.com\/?p=12198"},"modified":"2013-03-27T14:09:01","modified_gmt":"2013-03-27T14:09:01","slug":"whats-our-council-doing-about-dog-mess-in-bohemia-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.bohemiavillage.com\/?p=12198","title":{"rendered":"What&#8217;s our Council doing about dog mess in Bohemia?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_12199\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bohemiavillage.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/bv\/1131_1012.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-12199\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-12199\" title=\"1131_1012.jpg\" alt=\"Bohemias perennial problem  whats the council doing?\" src=\"http:\/\/www.bohemiavillage.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/bv\/1131_1012.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"237\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-12199\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bohemias perennial problem whats the council doing?<\/p><\/div>\n<p>What is our Council actually doing about the dog mess in Bohemia? In March, the <em>Voice<\/em> was invited to spend some time with the Hastings Environmental Health department to try to find out. The meeting took place initially with Mike Hepworth, at Century House, Menzies Road. We were later joined by Colin Mee and Sue Dedman (see panel, below).<\/p>\n<p>Trying to solve the issue of dog mess is an unenviable task, and the Voice\u2019s overall impression was that the Dept of Environment Health is doing its level best to tackle this problem and we too can play our part [\u2018How can we help\u2019, p 9].<\/p>\n<p>There is however, an unexplained mystery: why are our streets reported as being clean when they\u2019re not? [\u2018Clean streets mystery\u2019, p 9]. Maybe a US-style \u2018pooper scooper\u2019 law is needed? [p 10].<\/p>\n<p>Here are some of the questions raised and answers given by Mike, Colin and Sue:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\" data-mce-mark=\"1\">FINES<\/span> <em>Voice<\/em>: How effective are fines? Has anyone ever actually been fined the maximum \u00a31,000?<br \/>\nNo \u00a31,000 fines; they\u2019re usually around \u00a3100. Last week, someone was fined \u00a3100 plus our costs of \u00a3298 plus victim\u2019s compensation of \u00a315, all told \u00a3413. They will have to pay their solicitor\u2019s costs maybe another \u00a3400. Since April last year we\u2019ve actually had three prosecutions, compared with none for 2007\/8, but we\u2019ve handed out 76 fixed penalty notices \u2013 for \u00a375 or \u00a350. This compares with only 20 FPNs during the whole of 2007\/8.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\" data-mce-mark=\"1\">HOURS<\/span> Do the enforcement teams go out at all hours?\u00a0 Our teams do go out as early as 5am and can work up to 11pm. The bottom line is that we can\u2019t be everywhere all the time, and so we need to be smart about where, when &amp; how we work.\u00a0 By \u201chow\u201d we mean things like working covertly.\u00a0 Since last April, Sue and her colleagues have done a lot of \u2018patrolling\u2019 in plain clothes, because our experience is that offenders very rarely offend in front of a uniformed officer, they just wait until we\u2019re gone.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\" data-mce-mark=\"1\">CAMERAS<\/span> Are cameras used? We have used night cameras in the past, but we have to be careful when using covert directed surveillance cameras.\u00a0 The Surveillance Commissioners \u2018police\u2019 the way local authorities do this work. Cameras haven\u2019t been used so far this year, but from April, \u2018flexible timed cameras\u2019 will be used and we\u2019ll return on consecutive nights to catch dog foulers.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\" data-mce-mark=\"1\">SURVEYS<\/span> Are regular council surveys done to check on the state of our streets? To actually patrol all the streets in the borough on a regular basis would be a full-time job for several people and would divert our officers from dealing with known hotspots. It\u2019s much more efficient for us to work from feedback from the street cleaners and from complaints from the public. Are independent surveys carried out? Yes, formal surveys are carried out three times a year by an independent company. [see \u2018Clean streets mystery\u2019, p 9]. Four years ago the proportion of \u2018failed\u2019 streets in Hastings was 23%; now it is 4%. We\u2019re very pleased with this improvement.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\" data-mce-mark=\"1\">DNA TESTING<\/span> On the Isle of Man, DNA is used to test faeces to identify culprits. Has that been considered? We know that some places do use DNA testing, but for that to work here, we\u2019d have to be able to refer to a DNA database of dogs in our area. Perhaps that could be a condition of a national dog licence scheme?<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\" data-mce-mark=\"1\">DOG LICENCES<\/span> would dog licences help? It depends on the nature of the scheme and the sanctions for not having a licence. We suspect the problems are caused by a small minority and wonder if they would be phased by a licensing scheme.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\" data-mce-mark=\"1\">STAFF<\/span> How many staff do you actually have on the streets? There are four teams in Hastings.\u00a0 The team covering Bohemia is Sue, Peter &amp; Manoj [picture, below] . They respond to complaints about enviro-crime such as dog fouling, littering, overhanging vegetation, flytipping etc. We aim to become so good at this enforcement work, that we become a real deterrent to the anti-social few who are not cleaning up after their dogs.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\" data-mce-mark=\"1\">HOW CAN WE HELP?<\/span> How can Bohemia residents help you? To help us catch irresponsible dog owners, please call us on the Together Action line 08000 854 500 or email us anytime on together@hastings.gov.uk Sue Dedman tries to ensure that her team works in areas where enviro-crime is most prevalent, and when we have the best chance of catching offenders. Sue\u2019s team does not try to patrol every single street, as that would waste time where there was no problem.\u00a0 This is why it\u2019s useful for us to receive information from local residents as it helps us to focus our activity in the most appropriate areas.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\" data-mce-mark=\"1\">IT WORKS!<\/span> The Voice alerted the\u00a0 council to dog mess in Tower Road on Wed 15 April. We got a reply the same afternoon from Sue Dedman: \u201cThank you for the information re the dog fouling this morning, I sent my officers to do a check and they caught a male letting his dog foul and not clearing up and he was issued with a fixed penalty notice\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\" data-mce-mark=\"1\"><strong>COMMENT<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Mick Goodger<\/strong> writes (Jul 2009)<\/p>\n<p>Dear Sir, I refer to the item in May\u2019s edition of the Village Voice about a fixed penalty notice being issued to a Tower Road \u2018male letting his dog foul and not clearing up\u2019. That \u2018male\u2019 was me! I feel a bit sore about it, even though technically I was in the wrong. I like to think of myself as a responsible dog owner.\u00a0 When I take my dog for a walk, I always carry special dog-waste bags.<\/p>\n<p>My own dog, Rossi, is a seven year old Weimaramer and he usually asks if he wants to go out. On this occasion, he went outside without me. I realise the council employee who issued my fine was only doing his job. It was very cut and dried, I had a straight choice: pay the \u00a350 fine or go to court. I paid. The irony is that in Tower Road,\u00a0 outside my shop, I often clear up after other people\u2019s dogs. It seems very unfair that a responsible dog owner should have been fined like this.<\/p>\n<p>Mick Goodger, Destination MX, Tower Road.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bohemias perennial problem whats the council doing? What is our Council actually doing about the dog mess in Bohemia? In March, the Voice was invited to spend some time with the Hastings Environmental Health department to try to find out. 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